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image by Clay Moss, 3 Oct 2007
I could not find any info on RFBYC's website about history of any kind.
Clay Moss, 1 March 2006
Established in Perth 1896.
First entry in Navy List [naL] 1936.
David Prothero, 1 March 2006
For many years I have communicated with Captain Malcolm Farrow RN in relation to Warrants for
yachts. For many years there has been a gently simmering dispute with Royal Brighton Yacht Club (RBYC) in Melbourne because Royal Freshwater Bay Yacht Club (RFBYC) has been using incorrectly RBYC's burgee and consequently the wrong ensign. According to their own rules, the ensign is a gold ducal coronet centred on a white 'Greek cross' centred in the fly of the ensign. RFBYC have as yet to acknowledge their error in using the St
Edwards crown on both the burgee and ensign. RFBYC have also lost their
warrant and royal charter in a boating mishap when transferring their
records from their prior site to the one they now occupy. Apparently the
boat capsized, tossing a variety of items into the Swan River including the
charter and warrant to the bottom of the river and never recovered. The
original records in London were either destroyed in World War 2 or filed somewhere
very safe, never to be found again! It is possible, although I am yet to
check, that the Governor of Western Australia has correspondence from 1936 that
might have the wording of the charter and warrant.
Neil Freeman, 4 July 2007
The device on the cross of the Royal Freshwater
Bay Yacht Club's ensign is a ducal coronet, but not the coronet of the Duchy
of Cornwall as found on the Royal Fowey Yacht Club. As far as I can tell via the various correspondence that I have seen, the RFBYC's ensign is currently only on paper and currently, no yacht flies it.
Clay Moss, 11 July 2007
Burgee as used by the club
image by Clay Moss, 29 May 2007
As best as I can tell, the Royal Thames Yacht Club, UK and the Royal Freshwater Bay Yacht Club, Australia share the same burgee.
Clay Moss, 29 May 2007
The Dumpy Pocket Book of Sailing Dinghies and Yachts, of 1960, doesn't have the Royal Thames. It does show the burgee of the Royal Freshwater Bay, matching what you've drawn closely - in black and white drawing using colour indications. It uses a Tudor crown for the Burgee, though. Does this mean that all burgees with crowns that existing before a certain time have an earlier version using a Tudor crown?
The book also has the Royal Brighton Y.C. (Middle Brighton, Australia)
with almost the same Burgee. The only difference it that the arms of the
cross might be marginally wider, allowing the, Tudor, crown to come free
from the upper two corners of the intersection.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 29 May 2007
Burgee according to club rules
image by Clay Moss, 11 Jul 2007
RFBYC in it's own rules states that the burgee is a plain gold
ducal coronet on a white St Georges' Cross on a blue background. RFBYC have as yet to acknowledge their error in using the St Edwards crown on both the burgee and ensign.
Neil Freeman, 4 July 2007
Rule XIV(b) in my 1995 version of their rules states “...the club burgee which is a pennant is blue with a
white cross with a ducal coronet superimposed on the intersection”.
Neil Freeman, 13 February 2009
Royal Freshwater Bay Yacht Club (Australia)
A brief history of the club can be found at: http://www.rfbyc.asn.au/content/club-info/history.php
Peter Edwards, 18 November 2017